In this episode of Bitcoin Audible, I revisit an important concept that deserves more attention: timeout trees and their potential to revolutionize scaling for the Lightning Network.
Based on Shinobi’s article, “A Solution to Scaling Lightning,” we explore how this innovative proposal leverages CheckTemplateVerify (CTV) to create a simple yet powerful scaling primitive. Could timeout trees be the key to unlocking the next order of magnitude in Lightning’s efficiency?
I break down the mechanics of timeout trees, their implications for channel factories, and how they address Lightning’s long-term scaling limitations. Along the way, I share my own commentary on the broader impact of this technology, from its role in decentralizing trust to its potential for reshaping local and global financial systems.
What does this mean for the future of Bitcoin? How can timeout trees empower families, communities, and individuals to reclaim sovereignty in a world dominated by centralized systems? Let’s find out.
Check out the original article: A Solution To Scaling by Shinobi (Link: https://tinyurl.com/5absw6cv)

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The irony of posting on Twitter, how Nostr isn’t decentralized enough, is not lost on UTXO. He’s back! UTXO and I have a much needed catch up on the many projects he has been building and explore the ups and down of Nostr, why its so misunderstood, the state of Ai and how it is changing the market, and how to build the UX that Bitcoin and Lightning deserve. Also… the SBR is stupid. Enjoy!
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utxo on nostr (Link: https://tinyurl.com/ycymfms2)
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What if your heating system could pay you in Bitcoin? In this episode, I read an article exploring the concept of “heat punks”—Bitcoin miners who use their rigs not just to earn sats, but to heat their homes. The article breaks down the economics of mining-as-heating, from upfront costs to the surprising efficiencies that make it viable. Along the way, I add my own thoughts on the practicality of this approach, the trade-offs involved, and what it could mean for the future of energy use. Could mining rewards turn heat into a byproduct rather than an expense? Let’s dive in.

Check out the original article: A Heatpunk’s Manifesto by Tyler Stevens (Link: https://www.tylerstevens.me/blog/a-heatpunks-manifesto/)
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Life has been hectic lately, but I didn’t want to leave you hanging! I’m bringing back a classic, Take_044 – “Bitcoin is Not What you Think it is”, to keep the content flowing while I navigate the joys of parenthood. This episode is a great primer, and many new listeners may have missed it the first time around. What if your understanding of Bitcoin is only scratching the surface? Give it a listen and discover what Bitcoin really is.

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Bitcoiners having babies, P2P protocols, Bitcoin price without third parties, mining problems and solutions, stable coins coming back to Bitcoin, massive hacks, shitcoin quacks, and a partridge in a pear tree. Wrapping up February and all the major news with some Bitcoin OGs.Guest Links

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Nicholas Dorier brings us a short piece that is very relevant to many of our challenges today, being clear and precise about the definition of the word custody. As we have seen for decades, the political sphere is almost designed to destroy and confuse the definition of words for the explicit purpose of broadening power, and creating enemies and criminals of anyone who gets in their way. But an even greater dilution of the term has come from within, as new “layer 2” systems compete to be seen as the next major leap forward. Are they really, or are we losing a key definition that could bring more consequences than we may admit…? Let’s dig into it.
Check out the original article Read_872 – Erosion of the Meaning of Custody by Nicholas Dorier (Link: https://tinyurl.com/44xdbhwe)
 
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“The beginning of wisdom is the definition of terms.” — Socrates

Did you know that the value and utility of Bitcoin can be trivially duplicated? At least this is what the increasingly bitter buttoners of the world seem to espouse, even when proven wrong over and over again, and seeing a million copy cats fail at this very challenge. At least the capitulation is fun to watch. A short one from FT with a Guy’s Take to follow. An “apology” to bitcoiners.
Check out the original article Hodlers: an apology by Financial Times (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3byu5hnd)
 
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Tired of app stores controlling what you download and who gets paid? What if there was a way to directly connect with developers, verify the authenticity of their apps, and support them directly using Bitcoin? Could Nostr, the decentralized social network, be the key to unlocking a new era of app distribution, giving users more control and fostering a more trustworthy ecosystem?
Check out the original article Can Nostr fix app distribution? by Franzap. (Link: https://tinyurl.com/yc3cvx8x)
 
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I joined Knut Svanholm and Luke de Wolf on the Bitcoin Infinity Show to explore the fundamental role of money, incentives, and sound economics in shaping society. We dug into the “Give-a-Shit Matrix”, a powerful framework for understanding how people allocate resources—and how broken incentives lead to systemic waste.
We also unpacked why Bitcoin is the apex of financial responsibility, how fiat incentivizes inefficiency, and why Ethereum’s staking model is fundamentally flawed. Along the way, we explored miner incentives, the real problem with ordinals, and the deeper economic distortions caused by inflation.
Why does technology keep advancing, yet people feel like they have less time? Why does the system seem designed to trap people in endless work? And how does Bitcoin realign incentives toward genuine prosperity?
This was a great conversation with some hard truths and a few laughs along the way.
Link to original episode: The Voice of Bitcoin with Guy Swann – Bitcoin Infinity Show 133 (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3rebmb4y)
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It’s easy to complain about what hasn’t happened yet or what problems are still to be solved. And it’s also hard to have humility, recognizing that maybe how and when we imagined a problem would be solved, may not be how reality plays out.
Without getting complacent, it is prudent to also have perspective and compare where we are to its alternatives, rather than an assumed perfect solution that doesn’t yet exist. So today we take a break from the technical dives, and the challenges ahead, and take stock of our massive wins, to see just how far we’ve come. It’s time for a Guy’s Take episode.
 
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“Whatever it is you’re seeking won’t come in the form you’re expecting.” ~ Haruki Marukami